tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post7673745413465163754..comments2024-01-31T14:12:23.950-08:00Comments on Rob's Vegas and Poker Blog: Politics and PokerRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-78710751222737493972012-03-09T11:53:12.667-08:002012-03-09T11:53:12.667-08:00Oh gosh, I love this line, Glenn, "glad to se...Oh gosh, I love this line, Glenn, "glad to see your latest post got back on track!" That's awesome. You see, I was afraid I was desending a bit too much into silliness and sleaziness with all the talk of hookers and female body parts, so one of the reasons I did this post was to show I could blog about things non-hooker or body part related! But I see my "fans" are really only interested in hookers and female body parts. Silly me for trying to try for even a LITTLE class! I'll try not to make that mistake again! Thanks.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-38921817319673319332012-03-09T09:39:18.858-08:002012-03-09T09:39:18.858-08:00Hey Rob - glad to see your latest post got back on...Hey Rob - glad to see your latest post got back on track. There's a very simple answer to your question, when I posted the comment here it made me realize that my settings were wrong, I wanted to display my screen name just for consistency (no big deal having my real name out there but I just don't want to be confusing). I fixed the settings though so I should be consistent now. The above comment will be a rare commodity.Missingflopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05305775958095793633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-61178057510816842692012-03-08T16:54:40.339-08:002012-03-08T16:54:40.339-08:00Yeah, tournaments would be tougher. I've had ...Yeah, tournaments would be tougher. I've had problems there just because the guy next to me was talking just too damn loudly with a big booming voice to people across the table. I never realized I hated football so much until the guy at a tourn next to me was talking about the game so loudly in my ear that I couldn't think straight.<br /><br />And if you read my story about "Poker Genuius" (still on the most popular posts spot as #2) you know I would have just loved to get a table change away from him and was just stuck. <br /><br />Good argument for playing more cash games, less tournaments!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-1334891235008673802012-03-08T11:50:48.713-08:002012-03-08T11:50:48.713-08:00Unfortunately I usually only play tournies so I fa...Unfortunately I usually only play tournies so I fall into the trap of trying to bust out the loudmouth and it always fails lol. I'm a firm beleiver you don't talk about race religion or politics with strangers. Too much emotion with those subjects. Unfortunately some people act like real jerks at the tables and say and do things they wouldn't do in other settings. I'm actually surprised I haven't seen more fights at the tables. I play to have fun and socialize a bit not enter a c**k measuring contest to see who is the baddest.Tatudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07740752921768079793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-42557447715197367782012-03-08T11:37:20.979-08:002012-03-08T11:37:20.979-08:00Thanks for commenting, Tatude. No way I could try...Thanks for commenting, Tatude. No way I could try to bust the guy out, I was way too distracted by him to play decently. Maybe that was his plan all along, but I doubt it. It was easy to ask for a table change, unfortantely it took awhile before they could move me.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-84757846076543420182012-03-08T11:34:07.043-08:002012-03-08T11:34:07.043-08:00Thanks for posting, Glenn. The thing with my boss...Thanks for posting, Glenn. The thing with my boss is that I was totally civil in my response, and if he wanted to debate me I would have been happy to show the error of his ways in a very fair minded, gentle, civil manner. Or, we could have kept in contact as we had for years without ever discussing politics, that would have been fine too (better, really). But he just couldn't accept having a friend who so differed with his rigid viewpoint.<br /><br />I'm curious, Glenn, about one thing....I see you posting on a few other blogs using your AVP handle, yet on my blog you are using what I believe to be your real first name. It would make more sense to me if you didn't want your real name associated with such a disreputable blog as this, but not the other way around. I guess I just haven't sunk low enough, huh?<br /><br />Don't worry. You ask when we get back to talking about boobs? Next post will be all about vaginas!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-47835584335614101282012-03-08T11:25:13.146-08:002012-03-08T11:25:13.146-08:00Gotta agree with you on this. I wanna enjoy myself...Gotta agree with you on this. I wanna enjoy myself while playing poker. I'm not there to listen to heavy conversations on any topic. I usually keep to myself but on one occasion some idiot was spouting off about something that really hit home. I finally blew up a bit and said something and it made for an uncomfortable time at the table for everyone. That being said there's not much u can do about it besides changing tables if possible. Worst thing to do is stay and try to bust the person out.Tatudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07740752921768079793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-40811682107327496822012-03-08T10:12:16.341-08:002012-03-08T10:12:16.341-08:00Heh. Heh. Heh.Heh. Heh. Heh.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-14600301253912277422012-03-08T10:09:46.831-08:002012-03-08T10:09:46.831-08:00Yeah, Rob, I don't like XXXXXXXs, either....ju...Yeah, Rob, I don't like XXXXXXXs, either....just a bunch of narrow minded know-it-alls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-6276466758423785782012-03-08T05:59:08.090-08:002012-03-08T05:59:08.090-08:00Yeah, that situation with your former boss sucks. ...Yeah, that situation with your former boss sucks. It seems that a side effect of the increasingly polarized nature of political "debate" in this country is that we're creating a culture that has absolutely no idea how to deal with conflict other than with volume or simply refusing to deal with it. I think it's important to. Learn how to disagree with people civilly. That's how we learn and grow. <br /><br />I've run across political discussion at the tables, and my typical response is to try and ignore it. Oftentimes though I find people actually making effort to engage me in the discussion which is generally a no-win situation. My response is pretty much what you did with your ex boss, try and say something that doesn't really mean anything but sounds like I'm participating. Fortunately, talking without saying anything is a skill my day job taught me!<br /><br />Can we get back to talking about boobs now?Missingflopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05305775958095793633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-72026645723615758372012-03-07T23:25:22.989-08:002012-03-07T23:25:22.989-08:00See, if it was a buddy who was talking politics--o...See, if it was a buddy who was talking politics--or any topic I didn't want to discuss while playing--it wouldn't be a problem, because I'd just whisper to him that I didn't think this was an appropriate line of discussion, and hopefully, if he really was my buddy, he'd respect that and move on to another topic.<br /><br />But there was no shuting up this guy. I actually did consider saying loudly, more to the whole table than to him, "You know, I don't really thinkg it is appropriate to discuss politcs and religion at the poker table" but I wasn't sure how people would react, and it was just easier to move to another game.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-17380862584634273002012-03-07T23:20:52.947-08:002012-03-07T23:20:52.947-08:00I meant to say that even tho I disagree with you I...I meant to say that even tho I disagree with you I am glad you replied and I respect your view. I posted this story partly to see how people felt about this topic.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-39562256485250289902012-03-07T23:16:46.714-08:002012-03-07T23:16:46.714-08:00I respect that - and I play poker for the same rea...I respect that - and I play poker for the same reasons - to take a break from my reality and enjoy myself.<br /><br />however, my reality is retail so as long as I don't have people yelling at me because their water heater failed or because their carpet is shedding then anything is fair game.<br /><br />With you at the table I doubt i'd ever be inclined to talk politics as we both have an eye out for something else that's just as in your face but more pleasant.grrouchiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03619493798073601300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-16432034891377604822012-03-07T22:07:19.225-08:002012-03-07T22:07:19.225-08:00Not me, I would not be the initial starter of a co...Not me, I would not be the initial starter of a conversation on Religion, unless they were showing a story about it on the TV in the poker room.WECpokerhttp://wecpoker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-37633940779645854642012-03-07T17:53:06.401-08:002012-03-07T17:53:06.401-08:00Oh no, Doug, I was not out of earshot at all. No ...Oh no, Doug, I was not out of earshot at all. No sir. I heard exactly what was going on. In fact, when I was writing the post, I was a little bit afraid you would think I was talking about YOU! But of course I was not.<br /><br />Although I did hear you talking politics, you were both quiet enough so that I didn't really hear too much of the discussion, so I really have no idea what side of the aisle you and the hot chick were on. So that alone was a big difference. You could not avoid hearing every frickin' work the jerk in my story was saying. You guys were discreet.<br /><br />Besides, you were clearly tring to get in that chick's pants, so you get a total pass! I mean, all's fair in love and war, right? For all I know, you were just lying about your politics just to get her to like you so you could score later. How'd that work out?<br /><br />And btw, Doug, I have not forgotten about you at all, no sir. You will be showing up in at least one future post on this blog in the near future, count on it! Heh heh.<br /><br />And in keeping with this blog's policy, I had already come up with the phony name I was going to give you, but I guess now I will go ahead and use the name you've commented under. Stay tuned!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-67087297216736011122012-03-07T17:38:50.120-08:002012-03-07T17:38:50.120-08:00I think, like most things in life, it's a matt...I think, like most things in life, it's a matter of knowing your audience. I was actually recently playing at a table near Rob, but maybe not in earshot, and stuck up a conversation with the young lady next to me. We discovered we had similar political interests, and chatted about them for 20 minutes or so. I don't think we were talking loudly, and other than the players immediately next to us, I doubt we would be heard, unless someone was trying to. Now, had I discovered she and I were on opposite sides of the political spectrum, I probably would've just dropped the topic. Or, just maybe, tried to use it to get her angry and distracted, so as to make her play poorly, but probably not, that's not really my game. I do think it's a little declasse to just spew your views loudly at a table, but I'm also not likely to really make a fuss about it unless the person just won't stop.<br /><br />I'd rather hear SOME chatter at a table than just silence, so I'll tolerate most topics just to hear something...dougbbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15282412285315222277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-128745086004941752012-03-07T15:20:31.584-08:002012-03-07T15:20:31.584-08:00Don't worry LIGHTNING, I won't slap your w...Don't worry LIGHTNING, I won't slap your wrists. Heh heh. Facebook is a problem with me too. I admit that I occasionally post something political on it, but that's usually in response to a dozen posts from my friends on the other side finally posting enough garbage (imho) to piss me off enough that I have to give the other (correct) side.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-86435333509263505162012-03-07T15:17:57.100-08:002012-03-07T15:17:57.100-08:00Oh wow, you may be right, I might not like playing...Oh wow, you may be right, I might not like playing with you. There's no way I can play my best if I'm pissed off, and this guy was really pissing me off. I had no choice but to change tables. That's actually a weakness I need to improve on, getting too easily distracted while playing. So this was the last thing I needed.<br /><br />If that WAS you at the table, I'm really glad I moved before punching you out, which was my next step. :)Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-7954283092479362392012-03-07T15:14:52.884-08:002012-03-07T15:14:52.884-08:00Nice thought, but I take this way too seriously to...Nice thought, but I take this way too seriously to clown around with the guy. I come to play poker to take a break from heavy duty subjects. Someone wants to have a serious discussion of the issues of the day, let's go to a bar and chat. But let me have my fun at poker.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-8985775262571234992012-03-07T06:58:49.705-08:002012-03-07T06:58:49.705-08:00I have never had a problem with this at a poker ta...I have never had a problem with this at a poker table, but have had with online places like Facebook. Unfortunately, some people are obsessed with their own views and see people on the other side as being completely evil. I could go on and on, but then I might become political and get my wrists slapped here. : o )lightning36https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641629003610446976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-80003764783101952992012-03-07T01:44:36.375-08:002012-03-07T01:44:36.375-08:00You probably would not like me at the poker table....You probably would not like me at the poker table. I talk about all subjects and engage others frequently. If someone bothers me at the table with jerk-like banter, I tend to be able to ignore the situation and move on with my game. I either provide a counter argument or shut-up or talk to someone else. If I am playing in a good/great game, I would never leave because of someone I didn't like. I might just try harder to win their money.<br /><br />I know excessive talking can bother people, and on some occasions, when I see it is bothering someone, or they mention it out-loud, I talk even more, working on tilting them off some money.<br /><br />I hope it has never been you at the table :)WECpokerhttp://wecpoker.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-10871994273700592702012-03-07T00:11:53.509-08:002012-03-07T00:11:53.509-08:00I'm of the opinion that any type of table talk...I'm of the opinion that any type of table talk is fair game and mostly just because when the subject gets serious I'm the asshole that takes the opposite stance just to piss the guy off who's trying to hold a serious discussion about whatever.<br />I figure if they want to bring seriousness into my poker table then I'm going to probably piss them off a bit.<br /><br />None of the conversation material really bothers me because I don't take enough interest in the subject to be affected by the conversation.grrouchiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03619493798073601300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-6650027551683703652012-03-06T20:39:48.140-08:002012-03-06T20:39:48.140-08:00Great story. Yeah, I've had a few conspiracy ...Great story. Yeah, I've had a few conspiracy theorists at the table, but usually people ignore them so they eventually shut up (not always). At least a lot of them just mutter under their breath so you can tune them out. This guy was very loud and it appeared that the two guys on either side of him were encouraging him. Ugh.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-12382402032781082662012-03-06T20:29:33.637-08:002012-03-06T20:29:33.637-08:00I feel like I can discuss anything civilly with ot...I feel like I can discuss anything civilly with others, but that's unfortunately not the case with everyone. Honestly though there are people that have extreme political views on either end of the spectrum.<br /><br />I had a dude sitting right next to me at our local casino who was spewing the most ignorant conspiracy theory BS I'd ever heard in my life. Nobody was engaging with him in the discussion especially not the dealers, but he wouldn't shut up. I got up and went to the bathroom and stopped at the desk to request a table change when I see the guy get up and walk out. I walked back over to the table and found out who felted him and threw them a redbird and said thanks.JT88Keyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14030012435363552208noreply@blogger.com