tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post7833656907067836132..comments2024-01-31T14:12:23.950-08:00Comments on Rob's Vegas and Poker Blog: "We Find the Defendants Incredibly Guilty"Robhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-17345421994586045112017-10-21T00:57:11.503-07:002017-10-21T00:57:11.503-07:00Yes, I do remember that one.Yes, I do remember that one.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-36059023328709381892017-10-20T22:59:16.973-07:002017-10-20T22:59:16.973-07:00"I found my special purpose!!!""I found my special purpose!!!"John Buckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02065909549392026940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-55952201564996123622017-09-22T18:16:51.026-07:002017-09-22T18:16:51.026-07:00Yes, thanks, Norm, been a long time since I've...Yes, thanks, Norm, been a long time since I've seen The Jerk. Funny stuff.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-48421829751118559862017-09-22T18:16:12.757-07:002017-09-22T18:16:12.757-07:00That's a great way to do it. Thanks for that i...That's a great way to do it. Thanks for that info.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-681609814571944932017-09-22T15:07:54.447-07:002017-09-22T15:07:54.447-07:00These Damn Glasses got Martin rich in the Jerk.......These Damn Glasses got Martin rich in the Jerk....sure I remember that line and the "defective Oil Cans" as the sniper missed him. <br /><br />Both are funny movies.normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794603165354675721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-67498188498539748402017-09-22T11:57:55.344-07:002017-09-22T11:57:55.344-07:00I like the rule at Talking Stick here in AZ. Once ...I like the rule at Talking Stick here in AZ. Once the board calls you (over the loudspeaker, which everyone can hear) whether for a table or game change, that is your last hand at that table. The dealers are pretty consistent about dealing you out the next hand. They'll let you play your button if that is the very next hand, but no more after that.MelloAceCvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12271358924925354782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-26861819209392745162017-09-21T08:51:19.174-07:002017-09-21T08:51:19.174-07:00Rob is right on this one. Playing one more hand a...Rob is right on this one. Playing one more hand after you are told you can change tables should be all you can play before changing to the other table. Think about how many minutes are involved if the guy was told about his table change when he was in the BB and then he played his button (which should be ok) but then sat there for 6 or 7 more hands until he was the small blind? That could involve 10 to 15 minutes. That scenario would be very, very rude....Lesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01221409127717174351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-10731233997687606402017-09-20T18:30:46.541-07:002017-09-20T18:30:46.541-07:00Thanks, Grump. You're right about the "t...Thanks, Grump. You're right about the "two pair" declaration, always tough to tell. Am I wrong or did you mention this very situation in one of your old Poker News articles? Basically warning newbies to be on the lookout for this. It's a mistake new players are likely to make but even a veteran player can have a brain fart every now and then.<br /><br />And of course you are correct about Tony being wrong. Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-73221669914997532842017-09-20T18:27:41.513-07:002017-09-20T18:27:41.513-07:00Interesting that you blame the dealers. I can see...Interesting that you blame the dealers. I can see the argument, but often the dealer won't even be aware that the floor told the player his table change is ready.....he might actually be too involved in the hand that is live at the moment. In other words, the dealer might not even be aware that the player is supposed to move.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-23146793357169213882017-09-20T18:25:26.555-07:002017-09-20T18:25:26.555-07:00Come on Tony....making a player to stand around wa...Come on Tony....making a player to stand around waiting for some cheapskate to play a few more "free" hands is ridiculous. Meanwhile you are letting the other game go short handed. Nothing required the player to take the table change. He should not inconvenience someone else to hang around waiting for the bb to come to him. That's just absurd. I can see IF the button is the very next hand waiting for ONE hand, but that's it. You're talking about a few dollars in blinds. Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-64366497238075679152017-09-20T11:04:17.531-07:002017-09-20T11:04:17.531-07:00(1) You are right (and Tony is wrong) about the po...(1) You are right (and Tony is wrong) about the polite/considerate means of changing tables. (2) I'm certain that some people say "two pair" in that situation hoping that somebody with a hand like yours will incorrectly think of their hand as one pair, and muck without showing. I'm also certain that other people say the same thing innocently, with no such intent. But I rarely have more than a gut feeling as to which is operating in any given situation. Bottom line is there's nothing that can be done about it, since it is accurate. As with many things in poker, all you can do is be aware of it and act defensively. Because two-pair hands (and especially "three pair" hands) are notoriously tricky and prone to hand-reading errors, I try to remember to double-, triple-, and quadruple-check all the hands in such situations. Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-68968310568640977332017-09-20T09:44:11.680-07:002017-09-20T09:44:11.680-07:00Yes, it's angle shooting. Cards speak. Verbal ...Yes, it's angle shooting. Cards speak. Verbal claims are not, and are an attempt to get inexperienced players to act differently that they would if the hand was simply tabled. I'm sure someone will call it "speech play."<br /><br />And I'm less inclined to blame the players (although there is some there) than the dealers, who should be paying attention, instructing the players to move to the seat they requested the change to, and not dealing those player in to the next hand. Chucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-50183880832202821052017-09-20T06:16:05.362-07:002017-09-20T06:16:05.362-07:00calling 2 pair 2 pair isnt angle shooting, if a gu...calling 2 pair 2 pair isnt angle shooting, if a guy is too dumb to read his own hand right and muck upon hearing this, thats not your fault, since 99% wouldnt err like this. but it IS being rude to not let the guy wishing to move wait til its BB before he needs to move. the courteous thing for u is to let him see his free hands til he needs to post. it used to annoy the hell out of me if i had to move instantly, and i would consider the guy enforcing it to be a jerk for not politely waiting 2-3 handsTony Bigcharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14505857211799064393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-7817154347858322652017-09-19T18:54:57.582-07:002017-09-19T18:54:57.582-07:00Thinks, Nick. Appreciate your opinion.
I read so...Thinks, Nick. Appreciate your opinion.<br /><br />I read somewhere that "angle-shooting" is actually doing something that is technically legal but right up to the line. I mean, if it was technically legal, it would be called "cheating," not "angle shooting." I dunno if I agree with that, but it's something to think about.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-73572167247372768112017-09-19T18:46:07.304-07:002017-09-19T18:46:07.304-07:00I dont see calling 2 pair using a pair on the boar...I dont see calling 2 pair using a pair on the board as angle shooting. My understanding of angle shooting is that it's an unfair and misleading practice. While this may be misleading, it's not umfair because the player does indeed have 2 pair. Is it designed to potentially take advantage of an inexperienced player? Sure. That alone doesn't qualify it as angle shooting, however, in my understanding of the term.<br /><br />--cokeboy99Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com