tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post7841965135213165174..comments2024-01-31T14:12:23.950-08:00Comments on Rob's Vegas and Poker Blog: Face Off in VenturaRobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-80033495069991485922016-06-06T07:19:23.485-07:002016-06-06T07:19:23.485-07:00Thanks very much, appreciate the feedback.
I woul...Thanks very much, appreciate the feedback.<br /><br />I would just say tho that in Artie's case, his range was probably a little wider than than that. But still, Kenny is behind his range.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-44652619457560296522016-06-06T06:42:36.256-07:002016-06-06T06:42:36.256-07:00When someone makes a 3 bet in a low stakes NL game...When someone makes a 3 bet in a low stakes NL game, and it's a 4x re-raise, you can narrow the betting range to be QQ+. So when the board is Q-x-x rainbow, Kenny with KK knows he's either losing to Artie's entire range, or chopping.<br /><br />He loses to QQ. <br />He chops to KK.<br />He loses to AA.<br /><br />It's a fold.<br /><br />It's also a terrible overbet by Artie.Mruvulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746775158915636983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-66197250057307288862016-06-05T22:08:36.157-07:002016-06-05T22:08:36.157-07:00I think Artie's raise to $85 is NOT playing hi...I think Artie's raise to $85 is NOT playing his hand face up (see below). He bet 4X, which makes sense since there was a caller after Kenny's raise...otherwise it's 3X.<br /><br />I also think that Artie--this particular player, anyway--could do that with QQ, JJ and AK, although as pointed out below, he has two blockers to AK.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-8376871034345810982016-06-05T22:06:19.490-07:002016-06-05T22:06:19.490-07:00Awesome analysis, thanks for that great input.
I ...Awesome analysis, thanks for that great input.<br /><br />I think Kenny knew that Artie is NOT a standard 1/2 player (actually the game was 2/3) so that made his decision more difficult.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-84523024157601499382016-06-05T21:55:55.232-07:002016-06-05T21:55:55.232-07:00KK blocks AK and KK, and unblocks AA. If his oppon...KK blocks AK and KK, and unblocks AA. If his opponent is playing standard 1/2, he won't have AQ or JJ in this spot as he should, so there is nothing that Kenny beats in a standard value range given circumstances. On 10 7 4, Kenny gets the KK in because he still beats several hands, but Qxx means his primary target just made a set. It's the nut worst flop for his hand, because Axx takes aways some combinations of Aces but leaves all the QQ intact.<br /><br />Also, asking "Why such a big bet" or "you really made it x amount? [in this case $21]" in this situation is a top tier strength tell.<br /><br />Artie's flop shove is terrible and gives Kenny all risk and no reward. The fact that Kenny took so much time says it all: he wants to call because he has kings but he reads the board and the action and his brain won't let him: he times out rather than act, unable to resolve the discrepancy.<br /> <br />So the hand is a nice combination of Kenny playing well and Artie the opposite. Don't pay with Kenny, follow Artie around.persuadeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18337258853109676125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-72410322480842750402016-06-05T21:32:01.997-07:002016-06-05T21:32:01.997-07:00It might be incorrect to go all-in while that deep...It might be incorrect to go all-in while that deep. If the KK guy calls a standard flop bet, and the turn and river are blanks, then he'll call two more bets. I find it hard to believe that all of his chips won't end up in the middle anyway.Acehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817046099646546543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-79554347993962254082016-06-05T21:27:21.259-07:002016-06-05T21:27:21.259-07:00I think he probably intended to get it all in if t...I think he probably intended to get it all in if there was no Ace on the flop but likely changed his mind as he thought and thought and thought.<br /><br />Me? Well, based on the guy's play, and the fact that he was Asian (sorry if I'm stereotyping), I'm probably getting it all in preflop. Maybe I think of a different way if I'm that deep. Not sure.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8283462864090963789.post-67835266059511721052016-06-05T21:18:28.908-07:002016-06-05T21:18:28.908-07:00Making it $85 pre, gave his hand away. Why would ...Making it $85 pre, gave his hand away. Why would the other guy call $85 and fold on the flop? If I bet $21 and a guy makes it $85 pre, either we're getting it all-in pre or I'm folding. I guess he was looking for his 2 outs. How would you play the KK there pre?Acehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817046099646546543noreply@blogger.com