Grand Sierra Resort up in Reno is having a fall tournament series in the beginning of October. They have two tournaments with multiple starting flights, the opening event and the main event.
The first one
has five starting flights and the main event has six. In each case, you can enter multiple flights—you
can enter every flight, if you want. Also, you can re-enter the same flight for the
first few levels, and you don’t even have to bust out. You can forfeit your current stack if things
are going badly but you can’t seem to lose that last all-in. So if you’ve got just a couple of big blinds
left, you don’t have to actually shove every time as the end of the re-entry
period approaches and hope you finally lose.
Nothing unusual so far.
If you enter
multiple flights and survive day one in more than one flight, you of course can
only play day two with the biggest stack.
But here’s what I found that was different. If you do bag chips from more than one starting
flight, they will actually give you back money—more than the original buy in—in
exchange for the chips you won’t be using.
So in the
case of the opening event, the buy in is $260.
If you bag chips from more than one flight, you turn in the smallest
stacks and they will give you $750 cash (which comes out of the prize
pool). So if you play two flights and
survive both of them to day two, you’ll get $750 even though you only paid $520
in entry fees. It’s better than a
freeroll, they are actually paying you $230 to play. If you bought in three times and survived at
least two flights, you’d only be paying $30 to play in the tournament.
The main
event is bigger so it’s a $380 buy in with a buy back of $1,000. So if you buy in twice they could end up
paying you $240 to play in the tournament.
Both
tournaments have guarantees, by the way.
It’s $100K for the first one and $200K for the second one.
The purpose
of this is to encourage players to play all the flights.
Of course,
the catch is, in order to get money back (before the tournament is over, that
is) you have to survive at least two of the flights. And there’s no guarantee of that.
If you play a
flight and survive to day two, you have a pretty decent incentive to play at
least one more flight. You have a shot
at getting back more money that you paid in—without cashing in the
tournament. Plus, you might end up with
more chips the second time, and improve your chances of cashing in the actual
tournament.
That is really unusual. I just prefer traditional freeze outs and really don't like extended late entry, so this is obviously nothing I would ever do.
ReplyDeleteThanks. I think tourns with re-entry are becoming the norm but this is a bit beyond that!
DeleteYes, I just saw something very similar a couple weeks ago. The PokerNews Mid-States Poker Tournament at Downstream Casino in Quapaw, OK had a "Keep It or Cash It" event.
ReplyDeletehttp://msptpoker.com/Pages/KeepItOrCashIt.aspx
They had eight Day 1 flights, allowing players several chances to try to make Day 2. If they made Day 2 more than once, they could decide to keep the chips and add to their previous chips or cash them in.
There were also bonus prizes given out for players making Day 2 five times or more. And a bonus for the overall chip leader to start Day 2.
Here were the results of that tournament:
http://www.pokernews.com/news/2013/09/todd-kerr-wins-first-ever-mid-states-poker-tour-keep-it-or-c-16276.htm
They only had 2 players that elected to cash out their chips.
Very interesting, thanks.
Deletesounds like fun, can i try it out on $1-5 tournys on bovada?
ReplyDeleteSure, Tony. I'm sure if you tell them I said it was OK, they'll let you.
DeleteThat's pretty much the norm here in SoCal. The Bike does it all the time with their multi-entry. Here's the link to the structure for the Bike's main event to next month's $550 main event for Big Poker Oktober. It's preset that multi-day 1 qualifiers will have additioal stacks removed and get $3k each.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thebike.com/images/com_tournaments/pdf/1378768360_bpo_32_deepstack_200k.pdf
They did pull a new twist in the most recent MegaMillions during the Legends of Poker. $150 buy-in with 1 add, 22 starting flights. you could buy in directly on day 2 for $5k.
Thanks, Unknown. I had no idea. The only tourn I ever played at the Bike was the $40 noon event, no re-entry. This actually sounds like a good deal. All you have to do is survive two day 1's and your set.
DeleteIf only I could do it.