The TBC Invitational, Part 1
This is the follow-up to the night of
blogger’s poker that I wrote about here. For this second session of blogger’s poker, Tony was not just imaginary. He was there, in the flesh.
After the game I described at MGM,
Tony expressed disappointment that he missed out on it. He expressed this to both Pete Peters and myself. He sent me a direct message on Twitter that
indicated that he not only wanted all of us to play poker together, but that
he wanted me to post about it afterwards.
I have to say I felt a bit honored. I
knew that, in the past, folks who know about the blog wanted me to write about
them here. But having such an esteemed
blogger as TBC requesting this was something else. I mean, someone with more page views on his
blog than I could ever dream of, asking me to feature him in one of my posts? How
could I say no? I just hope this doesn’t
turn out to be an example of that old Chinese proverb: “Be careful what you wish for, you may get
it.”
Pete and I both wanted to get together
with Coach for another session anyway. All we had to do was arrange for it to happen
in a venue where Tony is allowed to play.
The Venetian or the Wynn were the two choices on the Strip (unless you
count the Stratosphere, and I don’t). We
settled on Venetian. Almost from the outset, the name “TBC Invitational” just came to us and stuck, even though it was
open to anyone and it wasn’t a tournament.
We were all going to play 1/2 NLH.
Since we were having another night of
blogger’s poker, with a rare appearance by Tony, we had to get the word
out. The three of us—and I guess Tony
too—all posted on our blogs about the event that night. I tweeted about it as well. A few people who
might have made it appeared to be busy.
Tony sent me a tweet saying if I could find a baby sitter for Jennifer Gay, she could make it. Of course, if you need a baby sitter in
Vegas, I am your go-to guy! Actually,
when we met up, Tony said he had mistyped that and all he meant was that if she
could find a baby sitter, she’d come. I
guess she didn’t find one.
And Pete and I did our best to
convince the very real Alysia Chang to join us—mostly through comments on our
blogs, since we don’t have any real contact info for her—but she had
plans. She indicated that she might stop
by later if she wasn’t too tired, but unless she came in disguise, she never
made it.
Tony had joined PPP and Coach for
lunch that day but they had split up after that. I would have joined them but I had a
business lunch to attend. We didn’t have a set time, just show up this Friday
evening (the Friday of Labor Day Weekend) at the V.
I got there before Pete and Coach, but
long after Tony. When I arrived, I
toured the poker room and found him in a 1/2 game sitting behind a nice stack
of chips. I went over to say hello and
asked him if anyone else had arrived yet.
Nope.
I got a text from PPP that they were
on the property but had stopped to get a player’s card for Coach. So I went to the podium to see if and how I
could arrange for all of us to get into the same game.
The short answer was: I couldn’t. That is, other than all of us getting on the
list, getting into a game, and then eventually getting enough table changes to
all finally end up at the same table.
Hmm…didn't sound promising. I
had her put me on the list—that was a mistake.
I should have waited for the Pete and Coach to show up and had us on the
list consecutively, and prayed that they would start a new game we’d all be
called to. Didn’t think of it until too
late.
As I said, this was the Friday of the
holiday weekend, so the place was busy.
They had a bunch of 1/2 tables going and before I knew it, they were
calling me into a new game. Meanwhile, Pete
and Coach got on the list, and in short order, were each called to separate
tables. So they we were, the four of us,
each sitting at a different game! Not at
all what we had planned.
I went back to the podium to see what
they could do. When I said we had four
people at four different tables that all wanted to sit together—and that we
expected more of our friends to show up—the lady just kind of shrugged. She remembered that she had just sent me to a
table that they had just opened and she said, “Well, they’ll never move any
players from existing games into a new table.”
Ugh.
I suddenly recalled one of the things I didn’t like about playing in the
Venetian. It’s their must-move policy. I won’t explain “most-move” games for those
of not familiar with them, but you can read about them here. My experience was that usually only the
biggest games a poker room has are ever must-move. So, at MGM, the only time you’d see it is if
they had a 2/5 game going and they open a second one, the new one would be
“must-move.”
So I was shocked when, one time in my
limit days, I was playing 4/8 at the V and I was called to a new game. And then one by one, they came over to take
our players away and move them into one of the previous two existing 4/8 games,
and then brought us a new player off the long waiting list. One by one, the
fish I was playing with were moved to another table. I was very aggravated. This must have happened before I started the
blog, because I know I was so pissed off at the whole thing that I could have
easily filled a long (even by my standards) blog post ranting about it. Remember, this was for the smallest game,
stakes wise, they offer there.
Anyway, her comment about not moving
players to a newly opened game reminded me of the policy. I wasn’t actually told that my game was a
must-move game. I assumed it was, and anyway, her comment about not moving us
to my table convinced me that I needed to take more dramatic steps to get us
all into the same game.
I was frustrated. I knew if we were at MGM, I’d have us all
sitting at the same table in minutes.
Partially this is because it is a smaller room, less tables, easier to
monitor. But the other reason is that if
I went over to the shift manager and/or the person at the podium, whoever it
was, they know me and would surely go the extra mile to accommodate me. They’d be looking out for me and would make
sure that we all got together as soon as possible.
But it appeared we were kind of
screwed over by the size of the Venetian, the fact that it was super-busy, their
rigid policies, and the fact that I didn’t really have any friends working
there.
Or did I?
And I thought about it, and was caught
in a bit of a moral dilemma. You see, I
do have some “stature” in the Vegas poker community. Through my work for both PokerAtlas and Ante
Up, I have contacts in every poker room in Vegas. I deal with these folks every month to get
updates on the rooms for PokerAtlas and news for Ante Up. I'm kind of a big deal. :)
My contact at Venetian is the
tournament director, who updates me not only with tournament info but cash game
updates as well. He is a really good guy
and I knew if he was around, he wouldn’t think twice about going out of his way
to help me out. I bet he feels like he owes me a favor or two. Actually, when I
got to the room, I went over to the tournament area to look for him, but it
appeared he wasn’t in.
But, he has his own Twitter
account. What if I tweeted to him about
needing a favor? I had to decide if
there was anything wrong with that. I
know I can never ask any of my contacts for anything of monetary value—comps,
shows, rooms, etc. That is strictly
verboten. But all I’d be asking for here was a little accommodation so all of
us could sit together—nothing of any economic value. In fact, it would be assuring that we all
stayed there and played long into the evening.
I decided it
would be ok and sent out a tweet to him.
The Venetian poker room also has a twitter account and I included that
on the account. And I waited.
Meanwhile, a friend of Tony’s, Herbie,
showed up to play. But he saw that we
were all at four different tables and saw how long the waitlist was and didn’t
think there’s was much of a chance of us all getting together anytime soon. He chatted with Tony and went around the room
to introduce himself to Coach, Pete and me.
When he came over to meet me, he said there was a short list for an
Omaha game, do I ever play that? Um, not
if I can help it. (see here). So I thought he might try to get into the NL
game, but apparently he just gave up and left.
But the old coot to my left heard this
conversation, and when Herbie was gone he asked me, “Do you like to play
Omaha?” I said no, but that the guy who
just left apparently does. So the old
coot said to me, “There are two kinds of people who do well at Omaha. Rocket scientists and complete idiots. And he didn’t look like an Astronaut.” Ok, I had to laugh. And boy was that old guy proud of his joke. Anyway, Herbie, don’t take it personally, the
guy had nothing to base his comment on, other than the fact that you weren’t
wearing a space suit at the time.
Meanwhile, my tweet was being
ignored. I guessed (correctly as it
turned out) that my contact was out of town for Labor Day weekend. And I guess whoever handles the regular Venetian
twitter account was off for the weekend too.
I considered sending out another tweet that would say, “Maybe we should
head over to the Wynn poker room.
Perhaps they’ll be more accommodating.”
But no, I didn’t do that. I also
was thinking that perhaps we should all just cash out of our games and then get
back on the list at the same time, figuring at least a few of us would end up
at the same table that way (especially if they started a new game and it looked
like they were going to be starting new games at a pretty good clip this
night). But I wasn’t ready to try that
yet.
But I knew I had to do something, it
was just a question of how much I wanted to throw whatever weight I have around.
I didn’t just want to go up to the
shift manager and tell him I work for both PokerAtlas and Ante Up and I’d like
to get all my friends at the same table.
I was afraid that it might not sound too good, and if he were to
complain to my employers about being a pain in the ass too demanding, I
could get in trouble. So I decided to be
subtle.
I had business cards on me from both
entities. I took one out—it happened to
be the one from Ante Up (I always, always see tons of copies of Ante Up
whenever I am in the Venetian poker room)—and wrote my name and table number on
the back. I then went around the room and made sure I had the right table
numbers for Tony, Pete and Coach and wrote their names and table numbers under
mine on that business card.
The plan was to hand this card to the
shift manager and explain that these four people all desired to sit at the same
1/2 table. Could he help us out? I wouldn't say anything about who I was, but if he happened to turn over the card to
see the Ante Up logo, well then, what a coincidence! Subtle, right? It wasn’t like I was actually asking anything
of him because of my Ante Up column, at least not directly. Also, if he turned the card over, he might
even have recognized my name from my column (or perhaps my contact at the V had
mentioned my name to him, that wouldn’t have surprised me). I figured this was the best way to go.
I saw a gentleman who looked
like he might have been the shift boss in the middle of the room, standing at a
very small podium, looking at some clipboards and talking to one of the floor
people. I went over to him and when he
asked me what he could do for me, I went into my pitch.
I asked if he was in charge—he was—and
if he was in charge of the tournaments or the cash games. He said he could help
me with either. So I handed him my card
and told him that those four players all wanted to be at the same table. Any table, didn’t matter which one. I couldn’t help noticing as I was talking to
him there was a small stack of Ante Up magazines right there next to his little
podium. I was oh so tempted to grab one,
open it up to my column, hold the page up to my face and keep going back and
forth, pointing to my face, and then my picture in the magazine. But no, I didn’t do that.
He was wired into to the front podium
and he told them to put all of us on the list for a table change to my
table. Ok, we were making progress. He was even going against the stated policy
of not moving players to the newest game.
The trouble was, since mine was a new table, it was likely to be the
last one of the four we were at to start losing players. But it was better than nothing. He handed me back the business card without
ever turning it over. That is
key….he was trying to accommodate us without having a clue about who I was
(unless he recognized me from my Ante Up pic, highly doubtful). We got no extra consideration than anybody
else going over to him would have gotten.
My cute little trick had gone for naught. But at least there was a possibility that at
some point, one by one, the others could be sent to my table.
This is going to be a three-parter, and that's where we leave part 1. Did the blogger's ever get together at one table? Will I ever actually discuss any poker? You can find part 2 here. In the meantime, you can check out the following links to read previous versions of this night. See Pete (here), grrouchie (here) and Coach (here and here).
This is going to be a three-parter, and that's where we leave part 1. Did the blogger's ever get together at one table? Will I ever actually discuss any poker? You can find part 2 here. In the meantime, you can check out the following links to read previous versions of this night. See Pete (here), grrouchie (here) and Coach (here and here).
Dang -- while reading this I forgot that I was reading your blog and thought I was reading Tony's instead (grammar notwithstanding). Please tell us that you don't talk about your sockrole or need for cheap, safe housing with the poker room staff.
ReplyDeleteWow....you know my goal has always been to make this blog more like Tony's. Thanks.
Deleteor doesnt congratulate himself 4 not being on govt assistance once every 3 months.
DeleteActually, Rob did whip the Ante Up business card out of his sock. No joke.
Deletei thought he did that only to get laid
Delete1 different is i think ED Miller may really read this BLOG LOL.
Deletedammmm difference OOOOOOOOOPS
Delete@PPP--I keep them there, true, but I actually had this card in my shoe....it fell out of my sock.
Delete@anger--Next time I see Ed, I'll ask him if he reads my blog. Not sure.
so it looks like the Stratosphere was the correct answer,sir. BUT i forget i am dealing with RICH ppl LOL. and some1 that doesnt eat Spam LOL. #vegassnobs
ReplyDeleteYou misunderstood, anger. Stratosphere is a fine casino with a first rate poker room.
DeleteBut since it is North of Sahara, I don't consider it to be on the Strip.
but it is on the strip?? first playing the Ante Up card for favors .now, defining the STRIP.that Benny Binion's book got u thinking like a Big Shot,huh. well, try and get a Red Bull for Coach at the MGM,sir.
DeleteIt's Monte Carlo where Coach can't get a Red Bull....and I'm working on that too. :)
Deletewell i knew it was 1 of those uppity casinos. LOL.
DeleteIn completely other news, I've just scored tickets for Dolphins/Raiders on Sunday at the world home of "Real Football". Should be fun. Might take a round ball, and show the guys how to do it. With my foot :)
ReplyDeleteSeriously though, I'm sorta of looking forward to it. Will I need one of those big foam finger things ?
SWEEEEEET!!!!!!!! remember that if the score is 0-0 ,that isnt a reason to get all excited. u want some1 to WIN LOL. so, u work BALLS with yr foot?? FREAKY!!!!!!! i thought redcoats were all prude and sheeeeeeeeeit
DeleteCongrats, Ben enjoy. Too bad you're only seeing one football team. I think it would be a better game if the Dolphins were playing Manchester United.
Deleteoooooooooh, sir .That will leave a mark. LOL
Delete@mr09ben IF U c Samantha Fox at the game .say HI and try to get a pic.thx. if u do that the whole War of 1812 thing is forgiven.but still holding a grudge about the smallpox and the group WHAM
DeleteSam fox will be about 90 now, so might not be able to handle the ramp up from the tube to the stadium, but if she's about I'll send your love. I'm with you on Wham. Sugar cubes for poxes and you can't go wrong. Against popular opinion, I'm going for the Raiders. If nothing else based on my fandom for Public Enemy back in the day. I realise they were based somewhere else then, but I have to hang my hat (clock ?) somewhere. For the record, the way Man U are playing this season they couldn't win a sugar bowl from an 8 year old.
DeleteDUDE!!!!!!!!!! she is still HOT. i googled her,yr knighthood.true ,i LIKE public Enemy saw them twice (tampa and miami).Welcome to the TERRORDOME. rICK rUBIN is the MAN. DEF JAMS/AMERICA.
DeleteTony sent me a tweet saying if I could find a baby sitter for Jennifer Gay, she could make it.
ReplyDeleteToo bad she couldn't make it; you'd like her, she's terrific.
DOES she sport the Trader Joe's look too??
DeleteI know, MOJO, I've heard exactly that. I was hoping to meet Jennifer. She is, after all, a fellow Ante Up columnist. Hopefully we can get together soon.
Delete@anger....I think that look is trademarked by Alysia Chang.
Deletejust chiming in to say that a couple years back I got to hang out with Jennifer for an evening and a good time was had by all even if the comedy show I took them too had more crappy comedians than good ones.
DeleteSo....this was your standup debut, grrouch?
Deletewhen r u writing a post on visiting the Taco Bell in Baker and trying Diet Baja Blast?????
ReplyDeleteI can't wait for your next two posts, and I can't believe you're writing all of it up in under five... ;) Also, the Raiders only lost by seven at New England. They should be able to compete with the Dolphins...
ReplyDeleteYeah, it was a challenge....I could have spent the rest of the year justing talking about that one nite!
DeleteWhat the hell are they playing a regular season game in England for anyway? As far as I'm concerned the results shouldn't even count.
England got to keep Scotland, they don't need Amurrican football.
Preach
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