Don't change that channel, don't close
this page in your browser. Despite what
the title might make it seem, this post is not one of my Ante Up columns
presented for your pleasure. This is an
actual Robvegaspoker blog post. Of
course, I will discuss this topic in my next Ante Up column (which I have to
write as soon as I get home this week) but it will be a much briefer mention
and will necessarily be more unbiased.
You see, as I wind down this Vegas
trip, I need to get something quick posted for your enjoyment, and I've got way
too many juicy stories floating around in my brain to pick one for you
today. I already mentioned a few here. I
now have three long tournament runs to report on, two of which I cashed in,
including yesterday's. And of course
there's the session I had at the Linq the other night where I will have to
quote myself for the title (because calling a friend a bad player and nailing
her hand is so much fun). But all those
tales and more will require more time to compose than I have right now.
Since in the recent past I have been a
tad critical of my favorite poker room's promotions, I thought it would be
appropriate to sing their praises here.
I don't like freerolls
in general so it's no wonder I wasn't thrilled with MGM's version. They are designed to appeal to local grinders
who can spend all their days and/or nights playing poker. I'm not in Vegas quite long enough to play them. I loved the cash drawings they had when they
introduced them, but I somehow became mesmerized
my them to the point that they started affecting my play when I could least
afford to let that happen. It was
entirely my own fault, my own weakness, not the fault of the promo.
Now I do love the football promo they
have. I've seen them all, and I believe
the MGM football promo is the best in Vegas.
The only issue I have there is something beyond their control—the time
of the games makes it tough on my schedule, timing meals around it. I dunno if East Coast poker rooms run
football promos, but any room in the eastern time zone would do well to steal
the MGM football promo next year, it would be absolutely perfect if the games
were on from 8:30PM to midnite.
But the MGM decided that these promos
had run their course, and they wanted to come up with something new for the new
year. All the old promos mentioned above
are now gone, replaced by just a single promo.
It's called "Drive for Five"
and as soon as I heard about it, I thought it sounded good. Now that I've seen it in action, albeit very
briefly, I'm calling it a winner.
Players are given a card (almost like
a Bingo card) that has five hands on it.
Each time a player makes one of those hands, that hand is stamped (i.e,
checked off). When the player completes
the card with all five hands, the player gets $100.
And the hands are relatively easy to
make. It's two pair, three-of-a-kind, a
straight, a flush and a full house. To
be clear, it is any two pair, any straight, etc. You don't have to make a specific hand of
that rank, any one will do. The card is
good for the entire month….bring it back the next day and keep getting stamps
until you fill out the card and collect your $100. Then get a new card and start over
again.
There's a few caveats. There must be $20 in the pot to get a
stamp. You can only earn a stamp for the
highest ranking hand you have. So if you
have a straight and a flush, you can only get your flush box stamped (and a straight
flush doesn't count as either). And you must win the pot to get the stamp,
unlike the old cash drawings promo where you just had to call at showdown to
get a ticket. But I think that's
actually a good thing. If you know you
are beat, you won't be tempted to call a big bet with a baby flush when you
know someone has the bigger flush or a boat.
So it should save you money.
And it still shouldn't be very tough
to complete the card, since you only need one card in your hand to win. Last night I had Ace-rag on a board with
Ace-8-8 and got my two pair box stamped.
To supplement the promo, they have
random cash drawings ever hour on the half hour. One player is randomly
selected as the winner. Nothing needed to qualify but be playing in a cash
game. If you have no card or a card with just one stamp, you get $25 if
picked. If you have two or three stamps
on your card, you'd get $50. If you have
four stamps on it, you'd get $100. Note: You can't have five stamps, as soon as
you hit that, you'd turn the card in, get your $100 for that, and then get a
new, blank card to start over.
Vegas rooms are always looking for
promos that appeal to both locals and tourists.
Every Vegas room on the strip has their share of locals who play
there. Locals start games and keep them
going. That's why so many rooms do have
freerolls. Then they must have other
promos that the tourists have a shot at (high hand bonuses, bad beat jackpot,
random drawings, etc). What's nice about this promo is that it serves both kinds
of customers. Those grinders who were in
the room day or night to earn freeroll hours should have no trouble putting
their hours in and filling out card after card, each worth $100.
And one great thing about this promo—unlike the freeroll, you actually have to play hands to win. You can't sit there and just play Aces and Kings and expect to fill out the card. You have to put some chips in play to win. So the promo is actually good for the game. I don't see any way it has a negative affect on game play. And even tourists have a chance to complete a card in a 3-4 hour session. Plus they could hit the hourly cash drawing. And the drawings being every hour means you'll never feel obligated to play more than 59 minutes (at most) more than you want to!
And one great thing about this promo—unlike the freeroll, you actually have to play hands to win. You can't sit there and just play Aces and Kings and expect to fill out the card. You have to put some chips in play to win. So the promo is actually good for the game. I don't see any way it has a negative affect on game play. And even tourists have a chance to complete a card in a 3-4 hour session. Plus they could hit the hourly cash drawing. And the drawings being every hour means you'll never feel obligated to play more than 59 minutes (at most) more than you want to!
I think the only issue is that they
may end up giving away more money than they expected to. Good for the players, maybe not so good for
the room. I suspect they will keep this
promo for awhile, tho they very well might have to tweak a bit as it goes on.
At first blush, it seems like a real
winner to me. Lemme know what you think.
And damn, this is about the perfect
length for an Ante Up column. Too bad I can't
just submit this!
(Edited to add, this promo has been discontinued for more, see my follow up post here).
(Edited to add, this promo has been discontinued for more, see my follow up post here).
Seems like it would give out quite a bit of money as a promo. I wonder if they are sitting on a big promo pool that they need to reduce. My only question would be that stamping the cards could slow down play. However next time I go to Vegas this sounds like a good promotion to play for. It favors players with wider rangers too so could draw in looser players which is also good. No one likes playing with the guy that plays 2-3 hands an hour.
ReplyDeleteSteven, when I first heard of the promo, I had the some question, would it slow down the game. But in practice, it doesn't. They have the little stamps in the rack and it takes just a few seconds to stamp it.
DeleteThe slow down actually comes before the player is sent to a table when someone at the podium has to explain the promo to the player and fill out the card for them. It's a minor delay but could be problematic on a very busy night.
I don't think they have a excess promo fund....I was told they estimated that it would take 10 hours of play for the average player to complete a card. Of course, running well or running bad would affect that, and the more hands a player plays, the more payouts they will have. EXCEPT....if a player likes to play way too many hands, they could easily run out of buy-ins before they fill out the card!
Interesting. I've played there several times recently so it's good to know. It certainly beats Venetian offering a $5 rake with no promotions.
ReplyDeleteSteve007
Yeah Steve...OTOH, MGM is still taking a second buck for the promo at $50.
DeletePromotion could put people on tilt. I just lost a chance to get a stamp because someone hit a 2 outer on the river.
ReplyDeleteSteve007
Ugh. Of course it doesn't take much to put some people on tilt
DeleteStill a good promotion though because people will chase. Guy to my left overplayed his flush draw because he needed a flush to complete his card and got there on the river after shoving the flop against AA.
ReplyDeleteSteve007
Yeah...unlike the freeroll you have to play hands to win. Maybe too many tho.
DeleteGuy to my left needed 16 hours to fill out his card but he plays pretty tight. Could have taken longer if he missed that flush.
ReplyDeleteSteve007
They told me 10 hours was what they calculated, dunno how they came up with that. Obviously running good or running bad will affect that, and the tighter players will take longer.
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