This story took place my second
week in Vegas last month. For reasons
that will become clear shortly, I really wanted to get this posted while the
WSOP was still going on, but it didn't work out that way. You know how it goes—you can't always get
what you want. I also wanted to marry
Kate Upton, but somehow Justin Verlander beat me to her, the bastard.
Back then, Lightning was in town. He had been playing poker
all day while I was working. He had
arranged to meet up with VegasDWP that evening and play at the Wynn. So after I finished working, I headed over to
the Wynn to join them.
This being the middle of the
series (and of course, Wynn had their series going on, the Wynn Classic), the
place was really busy. Lightning and DWP
were already playing, but they couldn't get the same table. So DWP was already on the list to transfer to
Lightning's game. When I finally got
called to a game, I told them to put me on the transfer list to Lightning's game
as well.
At this point in my trip, I had
been pretty much card dead the entire time.
Things didn't change this night at the Wynn. I was hoping that maybe transferring to
Lightning's table would bring me some decent cards finally, but no one was
leaving his table, and for a long time the three of us were all stuck at
separate tables.
The only table between us that
ever had empty seats was my table. At
one point, seat 9 opened up, and I saw a player heading for it. As he approached, I noticed he looked
familiar. Very familiar. By the time he took his seat at the game, I
realized that this guy was the spitting image of notorious
"speech-play" expert William Kassouf.
You remember Kassouf,
right? The guy who became infamous
because of one particular poker hand that was shown endlessly from the WSOP in
2016. The "show" he put on was
so noteworthy that I actually did a post discussing it, which you can find here. If you just want to see the hand that caused
all the fuss, you can find it here.
I was sitting in seat 2, far
away from him, but man it sure looked like him.
I wanted to get a second and third opinion, so I texted both Lightning
and DWP that I suspected Kassouf was at
my table and for them to see for themselves.
The both did and agreed it did look like Kassouf.
Well initially, I couldn't hear
anything he was saying over the noise in the room, but eventually I heard his
voice, that distinctive British accent, and I realized that there was a good
reason it looked like Kassouf. It was Kassouf!
Now my earlier post about him
was quite critical of his schtick. And
I've mentioned in other posts that I rather hate playing against guys who like
to talk to me when the action is on me—when players engage in just the type of
speech-play that Kassouf is famous for.
You can find a post about that here. So my initial
reaction to having Kassouf at my table was "Ugh. Can I get that table change expedited,
please?"
But I was a bit ambivalent
because I'm always on the hunt for good blogging material and it did occur to
me that this character could very easily supply me with something to write
about.
I had hardly played a hand
before he arrived and not much changed after he got there. I was just so card dead.
Kassouf made his presence felt
pretty much immediately. He opened pots
and was betting bigger than what had been the standard opening for this
table. Usually when I play 1/3 at the
Wynn, players open to $12 or maybe $15.
It's not unusual though to see smaller openings. But when there are aggros at the table,
suddenly you see openings for $20 or $25.
Kassouf opened for $15 or $20, if not $25. And until he had gotten there, a lot of the
times the pot had been opened for $10 or less.
As soon as he put out his first
$20 open, the guy to my left, an older gentleman with a big stack, said to him,
"Why are you betting so big?"
Kassouf said, "What? It's
not so big." I am quite sure that
the guy had no idea who Kassouf was.
These two developed a running
dialog, mostly with the guy next to me complaining about the size of Kassouf's
bets. But of course that did not nothing
to affect Kassouf's bet sizing. I will
say though, that after awhile, when many of his opening raises went uncalled,
he pulled back a little and started opening for normal amounts. To be fair, he sometimes limped and yes,
there were times he even folded preflop.
Early on, when he made a big
raise after the flop and everyone folded, the lady on my right said, "Oh
wow, he must have had a big hand."
The guy on my left said, "No, he had absolutely nothing." I suspect he was right. Oh yeah, he was also pretty aggro after the
flop, of course.
When the seat to his right
opened up, the new player in it raised his first hand. This really pleased Kassouf. "Oh first hand, you're already into
it? Yeah, yeah. Like a boss!" I of course cracked up but no one else
reacted.
There was one time where he
really acted like the Kassouf from that WSOP hand. It was post-flop, perhaps on the river, not
sure, and the guy on his right made a fairly small bet. Kassouf shoved. It was quite the overbet although the guy who
bet originally didn't have anywhere near the chipstack Kassouf had and they
were heads up.
The guy went into the tank. "I don't know….I don't know." So Kassouf said, "Well, tell me what you
have and I'll tell you if you should call…..You can tell me what you have." Yeah, he really said that. I don't remember the board, but he said,
"Do you have a 10? If you have a 10
you should definitely call." Of
course this left the guy totally befuddled.
Kassouf kept it up, asking what the guy had, and making
suggestions. "Well if you have a 10
you should call for sure." He
probably mentioned some other cards too, I can't recall. I believe he also suggested some scenarios
where he recommended folding.
But of course it left the poor
guy hopelessly confused. And so he
folded. And then Kassouf asked him what
he folded. He told him, but I didn't
hear what he said. And then Kassouf
said, "It was a good fold, it was a really good fold." Somehow I suspect it was probably the worse
fold in the history of poker.
When he got folds he would
frequently asked what they folded and always tell them they made good
laydowns. One time a guy told him he
folded top pair, top kicker. Kassouf
seemed a little shocked. "Man, if
you laid that down, that's a really good fold!" Again, I suspect that it was a really bad
fold.
Naturally, whenever his bets did
get called, he managed to have the goods.
One hand he opened big, was three-bet, he shoved, the guy snap-called
and Kassouf flipped over two Kings. The
other guy didn't show and eventually lost the pot.
One of the dealers was telling
him about the wild action at the PLO game so he got put on the list for
that. And he was called to it before I
was called to Lightning's game. So that
was the end of my evening with Mr. Kassouf.
I had fun when I finally joined
Lightning and DWP, but I remained card dead the entire time, so really no hands
of mine worth writing about.
As for Kassouf, I have to admit
that he's really not a bad guy. I don't
like his poker tactics but he seemed like a decent fellow and was just out to
have some fun (and win some money).
Probably a fun guy to have a beer with.
But a tough player to play against and I do think he pushes his verbal tactics
a bit too far.
To those who think that Kassouf's jabbering is good for the game there is one caveat to consider. He slows the game down. If a second player at the same table matches Kassouf's jabbering the game gets brutally slow. Add a third player with Kassouf's antics and the game at that table is no longer worth playing. When that verbal play thing slows down any game unnecessarily that is a bad thing.
ReplyDeleteGood point, Lester and that time suck makes an even bigger impact in a tournament, which is what Kassouf seemingly prefers. In a cash game, it's not that big a deal but taking precious time up in a tourney with his antics negatively affects everyone at his table.
DeleteIn my game, I felt like I was just killing time waiting to move to where my pals were playing (and was not getting cards to play). But if I was getting hands, it would be annoying to lose that time. You know his antics confuse other players and makes them take more times to make a decision. Of course he's hoping they rush thru the decision and make the wrong one.
What does like a boss mean? If you are truly a "boss" and you are good at it. It means stress, worrying about your team, investors, being responsible for everything, it's is ultimately your fault when things go wrong and again if you are good at it, you give all the credit to the folks who work with and for you. As an older dude, I am done being the boss. :)
ReplyDeleteAlso the time suck thing is an excellent point, hadn't thought of that aspect. I like the game to move along too
Thanks for the post
LG
Rochester, NY
Yes, I considered going off on a tangent on how I don't like the expression "Like a Boss" but somehow restrained myself. Certainly Kassouf isn't the first person I've heard using it. I agree it's a dumb espression. I was a boss throughout most of my career and although I enjoyed it, there's a lot of responsibility and headaches.
DeletePerhaps it refers to the kind of boss who is a like a major celebrity and just has a personal assistant he can order around willy nilly? I'm thinking that may be it.
The celebrity thing where you order someone around is not a boss that is the definition of a jerk. It really is a very dumb expression. he would make more sens if he said like a "pro" I admire your restraint I would have hopefully politely told him to be quite and gone off on my boss tirade. You should hear me go off on about Uber and the other disruptive economy BS (and get off my lawn) which is also easy to say from the safety of my keyboard.
DeleteNot to inflate your ego but your blog is pretty much the only one I read regularly (no pressure)
LG
Thanks for the kudos, LG. Glad you enjoy my ramblings.
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