This post is a continuation of the day and night I discussed here, my very good session at Bally's with Nick & Lightning.
As the evening wore on, there were two
topics of conversation that became dominant.
One was dinner. When to break for
it and then where to eat. The other
topic was whether or not we would try to join Tony at the Venetian for a
session. Tony had been texting Lightning
for quite some time asking us all to come play with him.
Of course, seeing how well I was
doing, Lightning was wondering if I wanted to forgo breaking for dinner—or
going anywhere else to play—and just stay there for the foreseeable
future. Noting that I had done terribly
the night before at MGM, he wondered if I should consider making Bally’s my new
room of choice.
It took us a long time to decide to
leave, we were all having fun, I was winning, and Lightning wasn’t getting an
answer to a key question he was asking Tony before he would commit to all of us
heading over to the Venetian. But we
just had to eat, and while dinning at the elegant, newly improved Bally’s food
court, Lightning got the info he needed and we discussed going to the V after
our meal.
Lightning and Nick were definitely
going, but I had to think about it. It
was getting late for me. It was a Sunday
night and, unlike the two of them, I had to actually put in some hours in a
real job the next day. But I finally
decided to be sociable and put in an appearance. I’d put in an hour, hour and a half tops and
then call it a night.
We headed over to the Venetian. Since Lightning was parked in Bally’s, the
two of them got there first, as I had to walk all the way back to Caesars to
get my car. By the time I arrived, I
expected to see them in a game, but no, they were sitting in the Venetian poker
room’s waiting area.
They informed that they couldn’t find
Tony. It had been awhile since Lightning
had heard from him, but last he had heard, Tony was playing in a 1/2 game there
dying for us to meet up with him. Note:
Those of you who follow the Tony saga—and I’m sure that’s almost all of
you—already know what happened to Tony on this night.
Meanwhile, many texts from Lightning
went unanswered. What to do, what to
do?
We wasted a good 10-15 minutes sitting
around, pondering that perplexing question, hoping that Tony would either show
up or send Lightning a text letting him know what he was up to.
In the meantime, I got a tweet from
Alysia Chang asking if we were playing at Caesars for the promos. I sent her back a message that there was no
way to get into a game there. And I said
what I still believed to be true at that moment: That we were all at the
Venetian and we were all going to be playing with Tony at some point. She decided to head over and join us.
We then had one of the silliest
discussions I can recall. It was late,
getting near 11PM I believe. We agreed
that we should not worry about Tony—since he was now ignoring us—and just find
a place to play some poker. This
discussion took place in the Venetian poker room, one of the very nicest poker
rooms in all Vegas. And yet, somehow,
both Nick and Lightning were trying to think of a place for us to go play
poker. Um, guys, look all around
you. We’re in a poker room! A nice one.
It took me a lot longer than it should have to convince these
out-of-town yokels that we should play in the poker room where we were having
the discussion.
With remarkable ease we all managed to
get into a game together. The table
where they sent me had two open seats within a few minutes after I was seated,
and they were able to grab them. Not
long after that, Alysia showed up and managed to get seated at our game as
well.
The problem was the three of them were
all in a corner at one side of the table and I was by myself at the opposite
end. The three of them were seemingly
having a grand ol’ time chatting away, speculating on TBC’s whereabouts (among
other topics), and I could barely hear every third word, if I was lucky. The seating arrangements eventually led to
some ruinous poker decisions.
One of the first hands I had was
pocket Jacks. Yes, again. Recall that I had pocket Jacks twice very
early in my Bally’s session earlier that same day. I raised to $10, only one caller. The flop was King-Queen-Jack rainbow. That was the exact same flop I had the first
time I had Jacks at Bally’s. I bet $15
and he folded.
A bit later I had pocket 3’s. I was
one of many limpers. The flop was 3-6-8,
two clubs. I bet $5. Another player made it $15, I made it $45 and
the two of them called. The turn was a
7, not a club and I just shoved. No
call.
In the big blind I had 7-6 offsuit and
no one raised. The flop was A-9-5 and
Lightning bet $10. I called with my gut
shot. It was heads up. Blank on the turn, we both checked. Another 5 on the river, I bet $20 with
nothing, and Lightning folded. See, I do
bluff. But only my friends.
Then it was time for me to get the dreaded pocket Kings. The guy to my immediate right raised to $13
in front of me. I made $37. He called and we were heads up. The flop was Ace-high. I bet $60. He tanked and then folded. He didn’t show but said something about “Ace-magnets.” His neighbor asked him if he had Kings and he
confirmed that he did.
“Really? You had pocket Kings?” He assured me that he had. “Well, then neither one of us was gonna hit
our set.” He did a double-take and asked
me if I really had the other two Kings.
I assured him that I had.
See?
I can too play pocket Kings!
He shook his head. “Well, it was a good bet then. You bet $60 with an Ace on the flop?”
Well yes, that’s exactly what I
did. I almost always bet my dreaded
Kings when an Ace hits the flop. I might not stick around to the river but I
think you have to bet there and see what the response is. I don’t believe in being afraid of an Ace
until I’m given reason to. I don’t play
those dreaded Kings meekly….maybe that’s why they sometimes bite me.
What I didn’t ask him is why the heck
he didn’t repop it after I re-raised him?
I mean, if he had, we would have gotten it all in preflop and we would
have chopped the pot.
So I was building up a nice little
stack, a nice little profit, when this nightmare occurred. Alysia raised to $10. I called with pocket deuces. I believe we were heads up, if not, a third
player dropped out after the flop. I
rather liked the flop. It was
4-4-2. Yes, I do enjoy flopping boats.
She bet $15 and I just called. The turn was an Ace and this time she
checked. I thought about betting but
decided to slow play it still. I think
it was a 5 on the river. She bet $15. I made it $45. She announced all-in and I snap called, sure
my boat was the winning hand.
From across the table I hear, “What,
do you have pocket fours?” She turned up
two Aces! I couldn’t believe it. OK, I could, but I didn’t want to. “You sucked out on me,” was all I could get
past my lips. That was indeed a major
cooler hand.
The guy next to me said, “Yeah, but
you sucked out on her first.”
Huh?
“She had the better hand preflop.”
Well yeah, that’s true. But that’s not a suckout. I maintained (and do here) that you can’t
suck out on the flop. For it to be a suckout, it has to happen on the turn or
the river. The flop is suck-out
proof. I mean, unless it’s all in
preflop. Then you can have a
suckout. Aces vs. Kings, all-in preflop,
King hits the flop, that’s a suckout.
But if I see a flop for $10 with deuces and hit my set (or in this case,
a boat), that’s not a suckout. It became
a suckout when Alysia hit her two-outer with only two cards left to come (OK,
she actually had a four-outer, either of the remaining 4’s would have given her
a bigger full house too).
Does that make sense? Do I have a valid point?
Anyway, it’s just semantics. Whatever, it was a cooler, as I said. I didn’t write down the amounts, but I had
her covered (I think she bought in for $100), I still had chips, enough so I
didn’t have to rebuy, but I was no longer profitable for the session.
But I won a number of smallish and not
so small pots. I got pocket Aces and got
two streets of value for them before taking it down. I had KK vs JJ—I had to slow down on the flop
because it was Ace high and all clubs.
However, I had the King of clubs and caught the nut flush on the river.
I was back above my $200 buy in and
pretty much ready to call it night. Now,
because I was running so well (until the deuces full hand) I had passed on a
few opportunities to change seats and get closer to the rest of the gang. But as I was just about done, and ready to
cash out with a small profit, I decide to move next to the gang for a few more
hands.
You see, Lightning had indicated he
had finally heard from Tony and he didn’t want to shout what he had heard from
him across the room. So I decided to
move not just to be sociable, but so I could learn why Tony had disappeared
from the V before we had gotten there.
When I left my “lucky seat” the guy to
my right—the one who had folded his Kings to my Kings—said, “What, that seat is
not good enough for you?” He started
listing all the good hands that I had that he had seen, starting with the Kings
vs. Kings hand. I didn’t explain to him
why I left.
Anyway, I soon learned Tony’s
fate. This was the night he was banned
from the Venetian. He was now at the
Wynn and asking us all to join him there.
I dunno about anyone else, but I was just about done and wasn’t going to
waste time going to another poker room.
I guess everyone agreed as we stayed put.
But that did give me the opportunity
to badly misplay a hand. I raised to $8
in early position with pocket Queens. At
least one person called, and then it was on one of the two new players to the
table. I recognized this first new guy. I remembered him not only from the very first
freeroll I had played in at the MGM, but I had seen him earlier in the day at
Caesars. Yeah, he was one of zillions of
folks who tried and failed to get into their room when they had all these
promos going on. He made it $35.
Now, the next guy was the guy who had
taken over the seat that I had recently vacated. And he made it $70.
The second guy had about a similar
amount behind, the first guy had less, closer to $120. I had them both covered. It folded back to me.
I wanted to fold, I should have
folded. And instead, I started thinking
about not folding. I’m not sure what my
thought process was, other than I felt like I was running good this day
(yeah….if you ignore the deuces full I flopped and lost with). And the more I thought about it, the more I
couldn’t get away from it.
And I assumed that if I just called,
there was a good chance the first guy would re-raise and we’d get it all in
anyway. So I figured I might as well
just shove there. Maybe I had a little
fold equity. Maybe the guy who made it
$35 would fold his Ace-King. So I
shoved.
The first guy tanked for a long
time….then finally called. The second
guy snapped called, which didn’t make me feel too good. The board totally bricked and here’s why. The first guy—the guy who made it $35, the
guy who I had seen at Caesars earlier in the day—had the other two Queens. Yeah, we were both drawing pretty dead. Because the guy who had made it $70, the guy
who had taken over my old “lucky seat” had two Aces.
Shit.
We all showed our cards and Nick and Lightning were justifiable puzzled
by my play. I couldn’t really come up
with a good explanation.
But then, just to poor salt in my
wound, Nick had to point out, “You left that seat, Rob.” Thanks for that Nick, really appreciated it. There’s a word for people like you. But I can’t use it in print without getting banned
from Google.
By the way, that was pretty
irrelevant. There had been a fair number
of hands since the time I had left that spot.
If I had stayed there, I would have played the cards dealt there
differently, as would have the guy who would have taken the seat I moved
to. Heck, we would have folded
differently. Point being that there’s no
way you could say that if I had stayed in that seat that hand would have had
the same distribution of cards and I would have gotten the Aces and he would
have gotten the Queens. Not a chance in
hell of that happening.
Later, in a comment on Tony’s blog, I
pointed out that if I wanted to, I could blame him for the loss. After all, I only moved away from my lucky
seat to get the latest update on him.
But that would be ridiculous. I made my own decisions—first to move seats,
and then to horribly misplay that hand.
So of course I have no one to blame but myself.
It also occurred to me that this was
the second time this session that I had the exact same big pocket pair as
someone else—remember I had KK vs KK earlier.
There’s no bonus for that, however.
That hand cost me $153. And put me in the red for the night (but
still up for the day). I left very soon
after. It was a fun day, a lot of great
talk, a lot of great (and lucky poker), but a rotten finish due to my own poor
play (and let’s not forget the suckout that Alysia laid on me).