Friday night,
February 1, was the night of the first, and probably last, “Grumpament.” That was a poker tournament to give the
venerable (but not vulnerable) Poker Grump a proper send off, as he prepared to
leave Las Vegas for a new life in North Carolina (see here). A group of his friends, followers and blog
readers joined the regular 7:00 PM tournament at TI (Treasure Island). Prudence and I were only to happy to say our
goodbyes to Grump in the only way that seemed right—by attempting to take his
money in a poker game.
There were
plenty of familiar faces there, and some new ones. The new ones were mostly people I was already
following on Twitter (and in some cases, vice versa). The familiar included Alaskagal,
Mitzula, PokerVixen, Stump and CkBwop (she
was one of the stars of this post). Those new to me included WriterJen, Snapple95,
SteveBrogan, and ftrainpoker. Of course, there were others there
that I didn’t meet, sorry to say.
It was three
tables to start, and Prudence and I were at different tables, and Grump himself
was in the third table, between us. At
my starting table was Jen, to my immediate left, and Steve, to my immediate
right. We were in seats 10,9, &
8. In seat 6 was Mitzula, and I believe
right next to him was Michelle. I’m sure there’s a great story behind Michelle
choosing the twitter handle Snapple95, but I’m gonna refer to her as Michelle
from here on. Just as I will call
ftrainpoker, who was in seat 1, Dave, from here on out.
Also at our
table, sitting to Michelle’s right, was Newt Gingrich.
Ok, it wasn’t really Newt Gingrich. Just a guy who looked an awful lot like him. I actually did a double-take when I first saw him. I did find myself wondering if it was logical that Newt Gingrich would come to Grump’s farewell poker party. But no, it was just someone who looked like him.
Ok, it wasn’t really Newt Gingrich. Just a guy who looked an awful lot like him. I actually did a double-take when I first saw him. I did find myself wondering if it was logical that Newt Gingrich would come to Grump’s farewell poker party. But no, it was just someone who looked like him.
I sent a
tweet to Grump asking if the guy was there for him, but he said he never saw
him before. Remember, we were just
joining a regular tournament; this was not a private event. Eleven of the 33 entrants were there for
Grump (I base this on the fact that 11 of us were in the “last longer” pool—at
five bucks each). Apparently Newt just wandered into the TI that night to play
a $55 poker tournament.
It was a fun
table, with Mitzula, WriterJen, Steve, Michelle and I all having a great time
chatting. Dave was too busy on the other
side of the table stacking chips and bullying the table to say much. Either that, or I just couldn’t hear him from
my seat. All these people are fine
folks. There was a newbie at the table
who was having some beginner’s luck at first who was impressed that Jen was a
member of the poker media, and I did eventually point out that I was a
columnist for Ante Up myself.
Early in the
tourn, I had pocket 10’s and raised preflop.
I believe Mitzula was the only caller.
It was very low flop, Something like 8-4-2. I thought it was a good flop for my
10’s. I made the continuation bet, and
Mitzula shoved.
Yeah, he
freaking shoved. I had him covered, he
had lost some chips by then and I had more or less my starting stack. I wasn’t going to mess around there, losing
an all in would cripple me and there was no reason to risk it at that
stage. I still had plenty of chips, even
if I folded. I admit, I didn’t quite see
the significance of the flop right away. I just said, “You like that flop that
much, huh?” I figured he likely had
flopped a set; he called my preflop raise so a pocket pair seemed likely.
No, no, he
didn’t have a set. He felt compelled to
show his hand as he was pushed the pot.
He had played the mighty deuce-four, i.e, the most powerful hand in poker. Of course the number one proponent of the
deuce-four in all of the blogosphere (if not beyond) is none other than Poker Grump himself. So that was one reason for him to call my
raise preflop. The other reason was…..it
was sooooted! Of course, Mitzula had no
choice but send out a tweet that he “grumped Robvegaspoker.”
I guess I won
a few small pots because I wasn’t desperate by the first break, despite having
been grumped. When play resumed, I found
myself looking at pocket Aces. I raised,
and to my delight, Newt re-raised. Newt
had been running well and had me well covered, so I wondered if I could pull off
a double up there.
I didn’t have
enough chips to do anything else but shove, and then Newt asked for a count of
my chips. OK, that told me he didn’t
have the other two Aces. I also couldn’t
put him on Kings, as I felt that too would have been an insta-call. After getting the count, he called and we
flipped over our cards.
To my
surprise, he did indeed have the dreaded pocket Kings. Perhaps I
should have considered the possibility that his hesitancy to call there was a
sign he was indeed a reader of my blog, or perhaps he was almost good enough to fold Kings.
The board was
nothing but blanks and I had my double up.
Now I had some chips to play with, and I had crippled poor Newt. It wasn’t long before I had pocket 10’s yet
again, and I raised again. I can’t
remember if Newt called there or shoved preflop, which was an easy call for me
since he was so short stacked. But the
flop contained both an Ace and a 10, he had Ace-something, I don’t remember
what, so my set of 10’s crushed his top pair.
And I had more chips, and Newt was gone.
I had busted
out Newt Gingrich! I had to tweet about
that. I tried to come up with a clever
tweet, but I was distracted by having to pay attention to the tournament, which
thanks to Newt, I was suddenly doing well in.
My tweet read, “Busted out Newt Gingrich with a set of 10's. First time
I've ever felt like Bill Clinton.”
Not long
after that, I busted out Michelle. (Edited to add: Actually, it was longer than I thought, as Michelle points out in a comment below, it was after our original table was broken, and we were down to two tables) Now
having a lot of chips, I had raised with King Queen offsuit. Michelle, short stacked, shoved with pocket
Jacks, a great opportunity for her to double up. It didn’t cost me much more to call her
shove, easy decision. And I lucked out
by hitting a King or a Queen on the flop (can’t remember which). She was done and I was stacking more chips.
Meanwhile, Grump was one of the first to go busto, leaving him to tweet, “I thought the plan was that everybody was gonna let me win. Harumpf. Some ‘friends’". Around that time, Prudence proved she hadn’t lost her touch by tweeting, “Such a tame crowd at @PokerGrump's grumpament. Do @PokerVixen and I need to start offering ball massages or something?”
Meanwhile, Grump was one of the first to go busto, leaving him to tweet, “I thought the plan was that everybody was gonna let me win. Harumpf. Some ‘friends’". Around that time, Prudence proved she hadn’t lost her touch by tweeting, “Such a tame crowd at @PokerGrump's grumpament. Do @PokerVixen and I need to start offering ball massages or something?”
No tweet from
PokerVixen signing on to this was forthcoming, I should point out. Perhaps Prudence included her because those
two ladies had “bonded” a few months back when PokerVixen busted Prudence out
of the WPBT tournament, as reported here.
Grump tweeted
back, “Excellent idea. I’m out, so I’m available.” But Prudence begged off saying that her hubby
had vetoed the idea. Grump responded
that he could take a turn too. But if
any balls were massaged during this event, I wasn’t aware of it.
Our original
table broke and at the new table, I was one seat away from Prudence, who had
started out well but then ran into a bad suckout that left her seemingly
crippled. But she was making a nice
recovery by now. There was a woman
between Prudence and I at my new table who, I later found out, had been the
person responsible for crippling Prudence.
So it was up to me to get revenge.
The woman shoved on an Ace high flop.
Sadly for her, there was also a five on said flop, which gave me a total
of three. Yeah, with a set of fives, it
was pretty easy to call her shove (I had her covered) and her top pair was worthless. So she was gone and I now had more chips that
I could count, I was probably the chip leader at the table at this point.
Then came the
hand that is probably worth a blog post all it’s own, because I’ve never quite
seen anything like this before in a tournament.
I had Ace-Queen and raised. Seat
10, rather short stacked, at least compared to me, called. I hit a Queen on the flop, so I bet out and
he shoved. It was only a few more chips
to call so I did. He had called my
preflop raise with Queen-rag and hit both his Queen and his rag! I didn’t catch the Ace I needed and lost some
chips. I was far from crippled, but I no
longer had the exalted chip position I had two minutes earlier.
But here’s
the really bizarre thing. As the dealer
was pushing him the chips, the guy gets up, says, “I’m sorry, I have to
go. I have to catch a plane. I’m really sorry.” And left the poker room, presumably to head
to the airport. Somebody said the plane
was to Australia, so it likely wasn’t worth it to change his ticket for a later
flight even if he was going to win this $55 tournament!
But WTF? He didn’t even stack his chips. He practically ran out of the poker
room. So I have a few questions. 1) Why did he bother to play in a tournament
so close to his departure time? He had
to know he wouldn’t be able to stick around to the conclusion if he did
well. Or was that not very likely? Did he know that he was a terrible player who
would like bust out in the first round?
I mean…huh?
And 2), ok by
the time I raised preflop he must have known that this was his
last hand. So, seriously, why the f@#$
did he call my raise, which he shouldn’t have called anyway? I mean really putz, and I use that term
with no affection whatsoever, why did you call me, knowing that if you won, you
couldn’t take advantage of your new found chips? Why not leave when I raised, since no good
could have come of it for you? Were you
actually trying to stick it to me?
Why? We had only been playing
together for a few minutes, and I had never seen you before in my life, and
didn’t know you from Adam. Why do that
to me?
I suppose I
could look at it another way, and say he made a bad call there hoping he would
bust out to me (or anyone), and then not leave chips on the table in a
tournament. Except if that was his plan,
he would have shoved to my raise preflop.
Instead, he just called, and shoved when he hit his miracle two pair
with Queen freaking rag. And then
he realizes he has to catch a friggin’ plane?
Seriously?
So this clown
makes a bad call, sucks out on me, takes a bunch of my chips, doubles himself
up, only to leave all his chips, unstacked, and catch a plane to
Australia? I hereby declare personal war
on the entire country of Australia. If
you’re an Aussie, I’m gunnin’ for you.
Anyway….has
anyone ever seen anything quite like that?
I mean to leave a tournament immediately after you won a pot, got a
double up (that you had no business winning, but that’s just my own personal
grudge)?
There was
nothing to do but for the floor to stack his chips and just blind the dead
money off, slowly. There were no antes
in this tournament so it took awhile. If
he had folded to my preflop raise, it would have taken a lot shorter time and,
I might add, I would have had a bunch more chips going forward.
I thought
since the guy didn’t even stay long enough to stack his chips (my
chips, really), let alone play one more damn hand with them, they should have
been given back to me, because clearly he violated some rule somewhere. But no, apparently giving me my chips back
would have been a violation of TDA rules, so I just had sit there totally
pissed off that I lost my chips to a goddamn phantom.
Eventually we
made it down to one table and the dead Aussie money was still there, at least a
little of it. Stump had made it to the
final table as had Prudence, who had recovered.
I might be forgetting someone, but I think we three and one other guy
were the only “Grumpsters” who made it to the final table. If I’ve forgotten anyone, I apologize, please
feel free to leave a comment correcting me.
The “other guy” was only tangentially connected to Grump as far as I could
tell. I asked his name, and he told me,
but I promptly forgot it. I asked if he
was on twitter and he was not. Turns out he was there because he was the
boyfriend of CK. CK had busted out
earlier and was off “slot slutting” with PokerVixen and WriterJen. “Boyfriend,” as I’ll call him, became
problematic in a couple of different ways.
He was
sitting directly to my left and had a short stack, much shorter than mine, after
we redrew for the final table. Very
early with a short stack, I saw him call a guy’s all in with a K-8 off. The
original shover had a shorter stack than him, so as he explained to me, he
figured the guy could shove with anything there and didn’t figure he even
likely had an Ace. But Boyfriend was
wrong, the short stack did have an Ace, Ace–rag I believe. Boyfriend would have been down to almost
nothing if he didn’t get lucky. But
lucky he got and hit a King for the win.
Now he had some chips to play with.
Sometime
later, when I still had enough chips to play poker with (and not just
shove-or-fold), I raised in early position with A-10 off. Boyfriend shoved. By now, he had me covered, but not by that
much. It folded back to me. I remembered the King-8 hand, but things were
different now. He had chips to play
with. I had enough so that if I won the
pot, he would be more crippled than he was when he made the move with the
K-8. Since I had the ability to get away
from it without crippling myself, I thought it was best to fold. I just thought he wouldn’t take a risk like
that without a pretty decent hand, either a better Ace than mine or a pocket
pair. Besides, this was before we were
all in the money and I wanted to take something home.
Prudence
thought otherwise. She was quite upset
when I folded, remembering the K-8 hand and also I believe, having played with
him earlier in the tournament. She
shouted our “safe word” to me, after I folded.
That safe word, of course, is “bosoms.” It’s just a joke between us that we use a
code word to indicate eminent danger in a hand.
Of course, it is strictly a joke, and we would never do that during a
hand, because that would be collusion.
Which is why she didn’t say until after I mucked, to tell me from across
the table that she thought I should have called the shove (even tho she didn’t
know what I had).
They were
paying four and we managed to get down to four, meaning we were all in the
money. Fourth place was I think $158, so more or less
3X the buy in. I think first was in the
neighborhood of $500. All the final four
were Grumpsters, the aforementioned Stump, Prudence, Boyfriend, and
myself. At the time the we all made the
money, the stacks were pretty close to even.
And so both Stump and Prudence suggested a four way chop, including the
$55 last longer money. I think we would have each gotten around $300. I was
certainly in agreement, but Boyfriend would have none of it. He insisted he had by far the biggest
stack. Prudence insisted it wasn’t so,
we were all very close. Ok, how about a
chop by chip stack? Nope, Boyfriend
refused. He said that his girlfriend
would lose all respect for him if he agreed to a chop. At the time, I didn’t know who he was talking
about by his “girlfriend,” I didn’t even know if his girlfriend was there.
So we played
on. Stump and I got into a hand. I was pretty short stacked by then. Stump had plenty of chips so he made an early
position raise. I was next and saw Ace-Jack
offsuit. It had been a long, long time
since I’d seen any hand anywhere close to this good, so I shoved. Stump thought long and hard. I wouldn’t have minded a call there, I
figured it was likely a race (with Ace-King or even Ace-Queen, I think he snap-calls)
and I was ok taking my chances on a big double up. But he took his time and then folded.
I said to
him, “Oh I thought you’d want to call there just to be the star my next blog
post.” He asked me to tell him what I
had after the tourn and of course I agreed.
Later we shared info and I think he said he had pocket 6’s, some pocket
pair like that. He was happy I had
Ace-Jack; he didn’t want to get in a race there. Truth be told, his having played with me
somewhat, and having read my blog, it made it easier to put be on a big hand
there. So if I had thought of it at that
time, pulling off a monster bluff against him would have been fairly easy.
I had a run
of nice cards earlier but for the longest time now I’d been card dead, and only
managed to steal some blinds with minimal success. I was the short-stack and dealt Jack-10, First in, it was an easy shove. But Boyfriend, now one of the two big stacks
along with Stump, called. He had
Ace-rag. Nothing hit either of us and
his Ace high knocked me out. I hung
around to rail for Prudence. Meanwhile,
CK showed up and started to talking to Boyfriend, revealing that she was indeed
the girlfriend that wouldn’t respect him if he had agreed to a chop.
I told him,
“So what? You’re a guy, no woman is ever
going to respect you.” But CK confirmed
his statement, saying she never chops either, and has plenty of stories of all
the extra money she’s taken home by refusing to chop.
Prudence
busted out next, and we were left to wish Stump good luck in taking down 1st
place so that the refuse-to-chop Boyfriend wasn’t rewarded for his stubbornness. Alas, a tweet later that night revealed that
he had to settle for 2nd place when his pocket 3’s were no match for
Boyfriend’s mighty Queen-7. Damn.
We were
unable to join Grump and some of the others later for drinks, but it was a fun
send-off to Poker Grump and I’m sure that everyone in the Vegas Poker
community, and the poker blogosphere, will really miss Bob (yeah, that’s his
real name). Here’s wishing Bob and Cardgrrl a great life together.
Rob , I graduated in '95, but 'snapple' comes from an alcohol induced, vulgar comment I made to an 'occifer ' when I was 21.
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I made it to final two tables with you and was still in for the "I really gotta go" guy. I wished when you shoved that he would have just put his chips in the middle, then politely mucked his cards and THEN said "sorry, I gotta go". That would have been the courteous way to go. *sigh*
I've seen it too many times in a cash games.
" I'm just going all-in cause I have to leave" (gf, wife, plane, etc), only for them to double up a few times (staying way past when they 'had to leave by') and raping the table in the process - to then start actually playing when the table noticed that they started folding alot, but no longer seemed in a rush.
Is this a new "poker personality"?
Thanks very much for commenting, Michelle. As I said in a tweet to Jen, I wish I had remembered more of the great conversation we had, especially at that first table, I know it was a lot of fun and a great group, but all I could seem to remember the next day was Newt, other than being Grumped by Mitzula. So I wasn't really sure when I had busted you with my awesome KQ off to your pocket Jacks! Sorry about that.
DeleteNow you're really pricked my interest with the "alcohol induced vulgar comment" comment. Michelle, I invite you to do a guest post here where you come clean. After all, this blog is all about salacious "woman said" stories. You could be the new Prudence, since she's in semi-retirement. Or perhaps the next "Natalee." No one reads this blog anyway! :)
Of course, you've already revealed your real name, which I frown away from on this blog. But it's ok, a surprising number of otherwise respectable women aren't worried about their reputations being ruined by appearing here!
I think if the guy had done what you had suggested, it might not have sat well with the other players, no? I mean just randomly giving his chips to another player.....although I've seen guys who wanted to leave shove with garbage just cuz they wanted to leave. And of course often they suck out. So it is kind of random who they eventually give all their chips to.
Or...as you say, it could all be a very clever strategy!
Hope to see you at the tables soon. It was fun!
You reveled Poker Grump's real name? Heresy, I say!
ReplyDeleteYep, I violated my own ethical standards. Admit it, you didn't think I had any ethical standards!
DeleteBut Bob was outed on his own blog, and besides, he's retired now, giving up his wild and reckless days for a life of domestic tranquility.
I see (and like) what you did with the whole "Venerable, not vulnerable" line there. lol
ReplyDeleteYes, Cokeboy, and thanks. I suppose I should give you credit for that! Definitely was thinking of my previous goof there, and how appropriate to use it for Grump, who is definitely venerable, but never vulnerable.
DeleteI wish Poker Grump the best ... hoping he'll keep us posted on his whereabouts and anything newsworthy he might want to share. And, keep up the great posts Rob ... we really enjoy them.
ReplyDeleteThanks. I believe Grump will still be tweeting plenty. I know he arrived safe and sound in NC and is setting up house.
Deletedont worry, some of the best and longest lasting poker bloggers are still living in vegas, at least for now til im broke.
ReplyDeleteYes Tony....OTOH, I don't live in Vegas.......:)
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